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Does doing things to appear cool to a girl never quite seem to come off like you had planned? We've all seen it and we've all done it. Trying to impress a girl, trying to get her interest, you end up saying stupid stuff, getting less interest, getting nervous, saying something even stupider in a downward cycle ending in a terminal, "Nice to meet you, Bye :) [Got to get away from this weird guy]".



Despair and recklessness alternating back and forth, you don't think you have a chance with this chick to start with, then you charge in, get bad feedback, a little more despair, rally with recklessness. That is why the process feels painful.

Would you typically get on your hands and knees and crawl to get something out of someone you've never met? Just because you're not physically prostrate doesn't mean you're not emotionally prostrate. You're doing the emotional equivalent of getting on your hands and knees and begging her to like you. Does this seem likely to work? Does it seem likely to make you feel good about yourself?

The fact of the matter is that her opinion shouldn't mean that much to you until you know her well enough to know that it matters. This, of course, doesn't mean complete indifference (If anybody has to say "I don't care what people think of me", clearly they do).

This is all well and good to say, of course, everybody "knows" that you can't come off as desperate, but most men's solution is to be desperate and try really hard not to seem so. That's why there's a stiff strained quality to a man caught in the despair/recklessness cycle, nervous laughter, etc.

However not being desperate is easier than you might think. Aquinas has a great section in the Summa on the qualities of the "magnanimous" man. What he means by "magnanimous", isn't purely generosity, the sense by which we mean it, but more a sense of "greatness", someone who is really proficient at something, even if that activity is being a man. One of the byproducts of this kind of magnanimity is security. The magnanimous man is secure, feels safe and has a slower, more natural presentation of himself.

According to Aquinas the key to this seems to be that he is only concerning himself with a very few things. When you're in the despair/recklessness cycle, you're kind of in a mental fog, trying to do too much at once, your mind is racing to find all sorts of ways to make her like you.

The key is to decide beforehand, perhaps even in your room long beforehand, what things you'll deliberately focus on when talking to a girl, and the things that you will not focus on. A good list might be:

Focus on:

Getting to know her, revealing a little bit of my own personality so she can get to know me.

Do not focus on:

Wondering whether or not she likes me, wondering what will seem cool to her, anything that seems like "begging" behavior or might be.

The key part of this focus, or non focus, is deliberate intent. You can't stop ideas from presenting themselves to your mind, or some old holdover feelings of insecurity. But, if you notice you start trending another way, shift your focus back to where you want it to go. "What should I be focusing on?" Remember your list. And put the begging bowl down.
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When I attended Big Christian U. (name changed to protect the etc.), we had an interesting problem.Guys were not asking girls out and... that's it. And when that rare eventuality arose, according to my female friends, a favored line was, "I think God wants us to be together." The favored reaction was an internal dialogue of, "Must get away from the crazy person."

I had one friend who believed that you shouldn't date until you could provide for a wife. And even then you shouldn't date, you should court, by which he meant, ask a girl's father for permission. So dating in college was right out. I had a girl I knew tell me that you should get to know a girl for several months before you asked her out.

I watched countless numbers of my friends hem and haw and "befriend" girls before beginning a tentative relationship that ended in heartbreak. I was called disrespectful for flirting (although the girls in question didn't voice the complaint). We had a speaker in chapel even mention the "not asking out" phenomenon, who suggested that a guy find out a girl's schedule and run into her "accidentally", to much murmurings of "stalker" [Incidentally, the speaker in question was an older gentleman who was a very solid guy otherwise].

When I asked girls out, and they actually went out with me, it seems that most of the time they thought I wanted to be friends. How emasculating is that by the way?

Talking to ministers the answer was always some variation of "God has somebody out there for you." Of course guys often got devastated by breakups thinking that the one God had for them is now gone and they're doomed to a life of loneliness.

The fruits of all of this was, to my view, a madhouse. We all were trying to play a game where the rules were constantly changing. Not that I didn't see some good relationships of course, but the general rule was that nothing went well on purpose. I remember talking with my father about this one evening and his response was that Big Christian U. was some sort of hive of insanity.

There was no standard "societal" procedure to begin a relationship with a girl, and the attempt to introduce one ("courting") seemed, at least to me, to be contrived and disconnected from reality.

In the absence of a structure, the only real solution is to find the "rules" that all forms of male/female interaction have abided by historically. Forms may change, but there are commonalities that stretch across the majority of them. Fundamental principles, that, if known, can help successful relationships with women to begin.

Nearly every society in existence has had some sort of concern with perpetuating itself. Every society has an inherent incentive, if it believes in itself, to ensure that mating goes off without a hitch, families stay together and that cultural values are imparted to the young.

The American church's general answer appears to be summed up in "God has somebody out there for you." Or a set of rules, like the one CD I got from my "courtship" friend entitled "Biblical Rules for Dating" and managed not to quote the Bible a single time. All of this seemed to be code for, "I don't know, and can't really be bothered to find out." Not, of course, to impugn anyone's character, I'm sure it was the best answer they knew, it just wasn't really good enough to actually help.

What I found though is a better answer. One that can actually help. Just ask yourself one question, "Should something this basic have to be so confusing?"
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